How to build the GluonPilot code

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Re: How to build the GluonPilot code

Postby Tom » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:15 am

Great! Looking forward to it!

What about uplink telemetry (the only usefull command would be "go to navigation line # ...)?
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Re: How to build the GluonPilot code

Postby e_lm_70 » Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:27 pm

As I was writing before, uplink is not supported by default with "off shelf" FrSky Telemetry gears.

I did bought a UART 2 Bluetooth micro PCB (9.99$ shipped on eBay), but FrSky Telemetry use inverted polarity on UART signalling so, my idea to get telemetry data over my mobile phone is postponed to when I will get the inverter (1$ shipped from eBay :shock: ) ... but using bluetooth this may effect the radio range (or maybe not, since my test show no side effect) ... anyhow it will need to implement a mobile phone apps for display and handle the uplink.

Ye, go to line # can be nice to have ... but so far for my needs this FrSky allow me to make my testing and setting on the field ... knowing all the time what is going on on the GluonPilot

Should I send you the code by email ?

I'm no so familiar with SVN ... I just download the latest release version few days ago ... but my SVN skills are week and I don't care to strength them :mrgreen:

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ps: If the FrSky display would have an open code, then it would be not so complicated to hack it for send some UPlink command. But ... open code is still not popular ...

pps: Which radio do you use? Any plan to move-test FrSky gears ?
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Re: How to build the GluonPilot code

Postby Tom » Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:55 am

Sure you can email it to me.

I still use my 35MHz equipment... I hate the long antenna, but I have so much receivers that it'd be a shame to throw them away.
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Re: How to build the GluonPilot code

Postby e_lm_70 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:58 am

Tom wrote:Sure you can email it to me.

I still use my 35MHz equipment... I hate the long antenna, but I have so much receivers that it'd be a shame to throw them away.


You got email ... from my yahoo account.

About the radio ... the advantage of FrSky module, is that assuming you have a decent TX that support training cables ... you can easily plug the FrSky module, and use the 2.4G with telemetry with your old radio ... so you can keep alive your old FM RX and you also don't have to learn a new TX radio system

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Re: How to build the GluonPilot code

Postby lukasz » Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:27 pm

e_lm_70, which FrSky receiver are you using?
From some time I'm thinking to upgrade my Hitec Eclipse 7 to 2,4GHz and was looking at FrSky:
http://www.frsky-rc.com/ShowProducts.asp?id=34

I found a two way FrSky receivers with PPM out (no hack or RX modifications required)
http://www.frsky-rc.com/ShowNews.asp?id=42

+ RSSI output :)
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... aff=266515 - but looking at specification this is typically made for Futaba.
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Re: How to build the GluonPilot code

Postby e_lm_70 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:50 pm

lukasz wrote:e_lm_70, which FrSky receiver are you using?
From some time I'm thinking to upgrade my Hitec Eclipse 7 to 2,4GHz and was looking at FrSky:
http://www.frsky-rc.com/ShowProducts.asp?id=34

I found a two way FrSky receivers with PPM out (no hack or RX modifications required)
http://www.frsky-rc.com/ShowNews.asp?id=42

+ RSSI output :)
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... aff=266515 - but looking at specification this is typically made for Futaba.


I'm using the DHT module, that is same as your module you point out.

As RX I'm using this one:
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D8R-II it was 3$ cheaper then the PPM signal out D8RSP as you point out:
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Anyhow, I'm not sure what is better .. to take the module, or take the module+display integrated:
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In my case I got the external display:
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Since I was buying the FrSky gears before telemetry was coming out ...

I have a Futaba Fx-18 and the FrSky gears works fine ... not really done much field testing, since I'm still flying mainly FM ...

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About your PPM concern ... I think the PPM signal is relevant between TX and Module, and for this there are 2 version, the Futaba and the JR (DFT and DJT modules) ... but I think the PPM from the RX should have the same shape .. anyhow .. in case it is not ... it is quite trivial to invert the PPM reading from the GluonPilot code

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Re: How to build the GluonPilot code

Postby e_lm_70 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:53 pm

PS: The TFR4, that has PPM and RSSI out, it does not have telemetry .. so it is useless
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Re: How to build the GluonPilot code

Postby lukasz » Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:58 pm

Thanks for the feedback.

Not sure if you already know this but you can modify your D8R-II to output ppm on channel 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lkjfvyUGg8
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Re: How to build the GluonPilot code

Postby e_lm_70 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:36 pm

lukasz wrote:Thanks for the feedback.

Not sure if you already know this but you can modify your D8R-II to output ppm on channel 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lkjfvyUGg8


I have no idea which language is speaking the guy in YouTube :mrgreen:

Thanks for the info ... I will keep in mind in case I will need ...

But ... I'm staying with normal 8 independent channels.

For telemetry purpose it is also important that the Firmware on the RX is up to date, so hacking it, it may compromise the telemetry and eventual the control transmissions ...

So ... I'm not hacking it ;)

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Re: How to build the GluonPilot code

Postby lukasz » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:02 pm

e_lm_70, I have a question regarding your FrSky code implementation.
Is it possible to connect any USB RS232 directly to FrSky receiver and pass that to PC?
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